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david w's avatar

i agree with many of the ideas in EA here but a few critiques about the things at the end:

on the 1600s thought experiment:

sure, in the 1600s there wrong models about many things, but that's an argument for improving our models, not for abandoning systematic and quantitative thinking about impact. the alternative in pure technooptimism risks ignoring tractable near-term suffering for speculative long-term gains.

on the Kant/utility split: I agree neither is perfect (kant justifies telling the truth about where someone lives to a murderer while util justifies slavery, nuc war outweighs, and s-risks outweigh), but ur proposed rules seem incredibly arbitrary. why is donating to charity "impersonal" but lying to get money to donate isn't? both affect both close and distant others. plus, what meta ethics (naturalism?) are these rules derived from? plus, the is-ought gap means that there is no such thing as universal ethics/morality or naturalism.

radha's avatar

expresses a lot of my mixed opinions on EA, great post

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